Wednesday, January 25, 2012

SOTU Postscript

What did you do after President Obama's State of the Union address last night? I'm sure a lot of people continued to watch the pundits on the cable news channels dissect the speech. Probably even more people changed the channel to more conventional entertainment. Personally, I wrote a blog post about it.

And the president? He made a call to Jessica Buchanan's father, to tell him that his daughter had just been rescued by Navy commandos in Somalia, after being held hostage by pirates for three months. Now we know why the president told Defense Secretary Leon Panetta "good job" on his way to delivering his message to Congress. Not a word about this daring rescue in the speech.

15 comments:

  1. You must be frustrated by the SOTU. Anytime a speech talks about everything it talks about nothing. What laundry list. The man sounded like a Republican. Is that what the Progressives have become? This address was so awkward. He is a shrinking President.

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  2. I was not frustrated at all. I thought the whole thing was a breath of fresh air, that gave the president a chance to tell the truth, in response to all the lies we have been hearing from the Republican candidates. And every State of the Union speech I can remember has been a laundry list. Besides, I'm not that interested in policy proposals anyway. Not that these are bad ideas, or unimportant; but policy is not my focus. And most of these proposals have no chance of being enacted by this Congress, and everyone knows that.

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    1. << I'm sorry, Kevin, but that is what is wrong with political debate in this country today.>>

      You know what is wrong with today's political debate from the left? Allow me to quote you:

      << I'm not that interested in policy proposals anyway. Not that these are bad ideas, or unimportant; but policy is not my focus. And most of these proposals have no chance of being enacted by this Congress, and everyone knows that. >>

      Specifically, this is what is wrong. You are not interested in policy! Is it just power?

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  3. It was a crazy SOTU.

    Holder to investigate financial crimes? That means he would investigate Obama's administration: Larry Summers, Tim Geitner, Jack Lew, William Dudley, Michael Froman?

    Why didn't he talk about Obamacare?

    Who in their right mind in Congress would vote to double cap gains tax to 30%? He had two years to do that when he came into office.

    A chance to tell the truth?

    Mitch Daniels spoke the truth.

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  4. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/25/politics/truth-squad-steve-jobs/index.html

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  5. http://www.usatoday.com/news/story/2012-01-25/fact-check-daniels-republican-response/52794896/1

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  6. If that is enough then Obama is in like Flynn :-)

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  7. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitch-daniels/

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  8. You cite Politifact as a source again. When are they correct? When they agree with you? Or when they voted the 2011 "lie of the year" award to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) who claimed "Republicans voted to end Medicare."?

    The outfit looks politically motivated to me?

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  9. I will even cite Fox News as a source on occasion. The question is whether the information is reliable, and can be cross-checked with other sources. And the thing about Politifact is that they are very concerned about appearing to be even-handed, which is why they awarded the lie of the year to the Democrats. That way when Republicans claim they are politically motivated, they can say, hey, we gave the lie of the year to the Democrats.

    But look at the substance of what Mitch Daniels was saying. It was ridiculous. Apple Computer is notorious for running a very lean company. Considering the size of the company, they have very few employees, and they do what they can to keep it that way. Their suppliers, on the other hand, have a lot of employees, but they are mostly in China. When Obama met with Steve Jobs to plead and cajole with him to bring some of those manufacturing jobs to the US, Jobs told him it ain't gonna happen.

    And to say that the stimulus act did not create jobs is just ridiculous also. All the congressmen who voted against it went running home to their districts to cut the ribbons and brag about how many construction workers were being put to work building roads and such.

    You can look this stuff up. And not just on Politifact.

    And Mitch Daniels should know better.

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  10. << And the thing about Politifact is that they are very concerned about appearing to be even-handed, which is why they awarded the lie of the year to the Democrats. That way when Republicans claim they are politically motivated, they can say, hey, we gave the lie of the year to the Democrats. >>

    What is this? A wink and a nod? Can you imagine you representing a client this way? Or me a patient? In court, this type of behavior would disqialify an entire testimony. As well, I would be laughed out of court as an expert witness in a medical/legal case.

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  11. In court, the whole argument you are making could be deemed what the rules of evidence call "collateral" and perhaps not even admissible. Why are we even talking about Politifact? It's not relevant. I cited three different news sources that have done the research to check Mitch Daniels's statement. All of them concluded that it was a blatant falsehood, and your only response is to talk about what one of those organizations did in a completely different situation. I'm sorry, Kevin, but that is what is wrong with political debate in this country today. You are off on a tangent that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether what Mitch Daniels said was factually correct or incorrect.

    The problem is that people like Mitch Daniels know that they can say whatever the hell they want, such as that Steve Jobs created more jobs than the stimulus act, and people inclined to believe that will believe that, and if you challenge it, they will start talking about something completely irrelevant to the point.

    If you want to tell me that what Mitch Daniels said was true, cite some evidence for that. But you can't, because what he said was just plain false.

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    1. << I'm sorry, Kevin, but that is what is wrong with political debate in this country today.>>

      You know what is wrong with today's political debate from the left? Allow me to quote you:

      << I'm not that interested in policy proposals anyway. Not that these are bad ideas, or unimportant; but policy is not my focus. And most of these proposals have no chance of being enacted by this Congress, and everyone knows that. >>

      Specifically, this is what is wrong. You are not interested in policy! Is it just power?

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  12. The problem with the left is that they are too interested in the specifics of policy. They felt betrayed that Obama could not get them single payer health care or close Guantanamo.

    It's not that I don't care about those issues, but I am more interested in process than policy, and I'm more interested in the general direction of where we are going, than the specific details of how we get there. I'm just more interested in procedure than substance. I'd rather talk about how the filibuster harms democracy, for example, than about what rate we should tax capital gains. (though in general I would probably favor a higher rate than we have now) Since you've been following my blog for a long time, I thought you were aware that process more than substance has always been my focus.

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  13. << Since you've been following my blog for a long time, I thought you were aware that process more than substance has always been my focus. >>

    I do follow closely; and I enjoy your blog! You are very thoughtful. Not many on the far right or far left can do it as well.

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